Comments on: Python Assert Fails Silently? http://www.charlesmerriam.com/blog/2008/04/python-assert-fails-silently/ Charles Merriam writes up radical inventions about technology, politics, and society Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:54:18 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: charles http://www.charlesmerriam.com/blog/2008/04/python-assert-fails-silently/comment-page-1/#comment-17110 charles Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:02:23 +0000 http://www.charlesmerriam.com/blog/?p=119#comment-17110 Hello Jay, The image is indeed a hyperlink to your original on the flicker account. This was, last I saw, the attribution required by Flickr and also satisfies the terms of a non-derivative CC license. My guess from the language is that this post was from a slightly off spider. Have fun, Charles Hello Jay,

The image is indeed a hyperlink to your original on the flicker account. This was, last I saw, the attribution required by Flickr and also satisfies the terms of a non-derivative CC license. My guess from the language is that this post was from a slightly off spider.

Have fun,

Charles

]]> By: Jay Lee http://www.charlesmerriam.com/blog/2008/04/python-assert-fails-silently/comment-page-1/#comment-17095 Jay Lee Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:02:03 +0000 http://www.charlesmerriam.com/blog/?p=119#comment-17095 In regards to my image being used for this article, please read and consider the Creative Commons License that outlines acceptible use. You can view it here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/deed.en Thanks for your consideration In regards to my image being used for this article, please read and consider the Creative Commons License that outlines acceptible use. You can view it here:

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/deed.en

Thanks for your consideration

]]> By: Andy http://www.charlesmerriam.com/blog/2008/04/python-assert-fails-silently/comment-page-1/#comment-15564 Andy Tue, 27 May 2008 00:14:23 +0000 http://www.charlesmerriam.com/blog/?p=119#comment-15564 Considering the change to 'print', it definitely seems like 'assert' should also be a function. To handle the problem where they wouldn't be disabled with -O, maybe they could hack the parser so that 'assert' functions are treated specially from normal functions. There are a few constructs in Python that seem normal, but are totally special-cased under the hood (such as 'from __future__' imports) Considering the change to ‘print’, it definitely seems like ‘assert’ should also be a function.

To handle the problem where they wouldn’t be disabled with -O, maybe they could hack the parser so that ‘assert’ functions are treated specially from normal functions. There are a few constructs in Python that seem normal, but are totally special-cased under the hood (such as ‘from __future__’ imports)

]]> By: charles http://www.charlesmerriam.com/blog/2008/04/python-assert-fails-silently/comment-page-1/#comment-13699 charles Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:05:36 +0000 http://www.charlesmerriam.com/blog/?p=119#comment-13699 Oh, FYI, Guido opines that making it a function prevents it from being disabled in -O mode. Oh, FYI, Guido opines that making it a function prevents it from being disabled in -O mode.

]]> By: charles http://www.charlesmerriam.com/blog/2008/04/python-assert-fails-silently/comment-page-1/#comment-13698 charles Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:02:47 +0000 http://www.charlesmerriam.com/blog/?p=119#comment-13698 The plus for being a function: + more consistency + over-ride assertion failure to log it correctly. + easier to decide not to throw exception during debugging. - might have security concerns. So, I agree with you. The plus for being a function:
+ more consistency
+ over-ride assertion failure to log it correctly.
+ easier to decide not to throw exception during debugging.
- might have security concerns.

So, I agree with you.

]]> By: dude http://www.charlesmerriam.com/blog/2008/04/python-assert-fails-silently/comment-page-1/#comment-13697 dude Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:52:12 +0000 http://www.charlesmerriam.com/blog/?p=119#comment-13697 How about: from testing import assert # or similar assert(...) Why would it not be a function!? More python inconsistency, it's frustrating to no end. How about:

from testing import assert # or similar
assert(…)

Why would it not be a function!? More python inconsistency, it’s frustrating to no end.

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